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		<title>By: Ethelbert</title>
		<link>http://laagcebu.com/2009/10/laagcebu-is-for-brt/comment-page-1/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethelbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Archie - first, wlay nagbinugo diri. We are just exchanging opinions.. yours is just as good as the others and mine. 

1. Yes, I agree both modes of transpo  will very well complement each other that is if they are implemented to complement each other. 
2. It is unfortunate that you were not updated as to what was the proposed plan for LRT. It was planned not to traverse areas from the north and south of cebu but only within metro cebu. In fact, it was my proposal (read comments) that it should have been done to connect the municipalities and cities outside metro cebu. But records would show that there is not enough demand for this kind of transpo in the suburbs..
3. I understand that Cebu&#039;s economy is flourishing.. Projections for bullish growth is consequential but it doesnt necessarily follow that we need to implement both immediately. While both are desirable we are constrained with the budget and maintenance for these project. We dont want to end up feeding a white elephant.
4. Debate is good Sir. It is by debating on very important issues like the one at hand that we enjoy democracy at its fullest. Debate is an instrument that fans the amber of truth. 
5. About my experience in Manila, i specifically brought it up so that we will learn from it.. Based on their plan it seems that learning on this area is not incorporated.
6. Nuclear power plant debate deserves a new post. But for you to know, you have an ally in me in fighting in favor of nuclear power. But until that is not realized, natural gas and other bio desiel fuel remain to be the best alternative.

Sir, thank you for positing your thoughts. I am glad to hear your opinions, i may not agree on some of them but i shall fight for your right to express that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Archie &#8211; first, wlay nagbinugo diri. We are just exchanging opinions.. yours is just as good as the others and mine. </p>
<p>1. Yes, I agree both modes of transpo  will very well complement each other that is if they are implemented to complement each other.<br />
2. It is unfortunate that you were not updated as to what was the proposed plan for LRT. It was planned not to traverse areas from the north and south of cebu but only within metro cebu. In fact, it was my proposal (read comments) that it should have been done to connect the municipalities and cities outside metro cebu. But records would show that there is not enough demand for this kind of transpo in the suburbs..<br />
3. I understand that Cebu&#8217;s economy is flourishing.. Projections for bullish growth is consequential but it doesnt necessarily follow that we need to implement both immediately. While both are desirable we are constrained with the budget and maintenance for these project. We dont want to end up feeding a white elephant.<br />
4. Debate is good Sir. It is by debating on very important issues like the one at hand that we enjoy democracy at its fullest. Debate is an instrument that fans the amber of truth.<br />
5. About my experience in Manila, i specifically brought it up so that we will learn from it.. Based on their plan it seems that learning on this area is not incorporated.<br />
6. Nuclear power plant debate deserves a new post. But for you to know, you have an ally in me in fighting in favor of nuclear power. But until that is not realized, natural gas and other bio desiel fuel remain to be the best alternative.</p>
<p>Sir, thank you for positing your thoughts. I am glad to hear your opinions, i may not agree on some of them but i shall fight for your right to express that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Archie</title>
		<link>http://laagcebu.com/2009/10/laagcebu-is-for-brt/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Archie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dili ta magbinugo beh...

Both modes of transport can be applied. In fact, they will very well complement each other.

You see, the proposed, and long overdue by decades, LRT/MRT, which is similar to that of Kuala Lumpur&#039;s will traverse the North-South axis.

So, how about areas around Cebu City, Tomas&#039; turf, nga dili maserbisyuhan? Like the East-West axis, or other areas that badly need mass transport but not covered by LRT&#039;s route? Say, Talamban-Banilad-CBP-Mabolo-NRA-SRP?

That is where, Tomas&#039; baby comes in.

And no one will complain from outside Cebu City kay dili man kaha sila i-apil. So, Tomas can go on, and the LRT-MRT can go on too.

Ang pace sa growth sa Cebu dili kaya ug usa ra, so dapat duha.

Di ko kasabot nganong ilalis man nang duha, nga pwede man unta mu-complement each other?

Ana jud siguro mga Pinoy, ngita pirmi lalis maski naa na sa ilong ang duha ka solusyon, gubuton pa jud.

Simple di ba? Implement both so that they complement each other.
Pila man diay ka LRT/MRT lines naa sa Manila? Di ba daghan man? Kanang LRT1 nga gikan Monumento to Baclaran; LRT2 nga along Aurora Blvd; and MRT3 nga along EDSA (circumferential). In that way, covered ang more thoroughfares. Lisod ba na huna-hunaon?

Rails and Buses need not compete. In ten years time, kung usa ra anang duha ang ma-implement kay daghan kaayong tawo nga gubot ug utok, makahibalo ra niya ta...

And kanang imong giingon nga based on experience sa Manila&#039;s LRT, that&#039;s not a reliable comparison. We can always improve and learn from their mistakes. And if we do not learn, maski BRT pa nga gipaburan nimo, mauli gihapong basura na. Na-engganyo ra kaayo ka sa picture. Wala ba ka kita&#039;g nindot nga picture sa mga LRTs sa ubang tarong nga nasud?

Lastly, think twice. Tagpila na diesel karon? Or even natural gas?
But electricity? It&#039;s price is bound to go down sooner. ASEAN is moving towards the cleaner nuclear power generation. And we were supposed to be ahead of the flock, kung dili lang pud tungod sa mga similar-minded to those kontra sa Rails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dili ta magbinugo beh&#8230;</p>
<p>Both modes of transport can be applied. In fact, they will very well complement each other.</p>
<p>You see, the proposed, and long overdue by decades, LRT/MRT, which is similar to that of Kuala Lumpur&#8217;s will traverse the North-South axis.</p>
<p>So, how about areas around Cebu City, Tomas&#8217; turf, nga dili maserbisyuhan? Like the East-West axis, or other areas that badly need mass transport but not covered by LRT&#8217;s route? Say, Talamban-Banilad-CBP-Mabolo-NRA-SRP?</p>
<p>That is where, Tomas&#8217; baby comes in.</p>
<p>And no one will complain from outside Cebu City kay dili man kaha sila i-apil. So, Tomas can go on, and the LRT-MRT can go on too.</p>
<p>Ang pace sa growth sa Cebu dili kaya ug usa ra, so dapat duha.</p>
<p>Di ko kasabot nganong ilalis man nang duha, nga pwede man unta mu-complement each other?</p>
<p>Ana jud siguro mga Pinoy, ngita pirmi lalis maski naa na sa ilong ang duha ka solusyon, gubuton pa jud.</p>
<p>Simple di ba? Implement both so that they complement each other.<br />
Pila man diay ka LRT/MRT lines naa sa Manila? Di ba daghan man? Kanang LRT1 nga gikan Monumento to Baclaran; LRT2 nga along Aurora Blvd; and MRT3 nga along EDSA (circumferential). In that way, covered ang more thoroughfares. Lisod ba na huna-hunaon?</p>
<p>Rails and Buses need not compete. In ten years time, kung usa ra anang duha ang ma-implement kay daghan kaayong tawo nga gubot ug utok, makahibalo ra niya ta&#8230;</p>
<p>And kanang imong giingon nga based on experience sa Manila&#8217;s LRT, that&#8217;s not a reliable comparison. We can always improve and learn from their mistakes. And if we do not learn, maski BRT pa nga gipaburan nimo, mauli gihapong basura na. Na-engganyo ra kaayo ka sa picture. Wala ba ka kita&#8217;g nindot nga picture sa mga LRTs sa ubang tarong nga nasud?</p>
<p>Lastly, think twice. Tagpila na diesel karon? Or even natural gas?<br />
But electricity? It&#8217;s price is bound to go down sooner. ASEAN is moving towards the cleaner nuclear power generation. And we were supposed to be ahead of the flock, kung dili lang pud tungod sa mga similar-minded to those kontra sa Rails.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://laagcebu.com/2009/10/laagcebu-is-for-brt/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 06:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like @simoncpu, I like LRT + BRT system.
Cebu City is already lively and who wouldn&#039;t want to make Cebu more LIVELY?!?!

Just like you guys being excited. I would like to see the prototype of the BRT System applied in Cebu City.

Great article Atty!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like @simoncpu, I like LRT + BRT system.<br />
Cebu City is already lively and who wouldn&#8217;t want to make Cebu more LIVELY?!?!</p>
<p>Just like you guys being excited. I would like to see the prototype of the BRT System applied in Cebu City.</p>
<p>Great article Atty!!</p>
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		<title>By: Vanjohnn</title>
		<link>http://laagcebu.com/2009/10/laagcebu-is-for-brt/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanjohnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a good point there. I strongly agree on BRT. It&#039;s far more practical to have BRT.

But wouldn&#039;t it be cool if we had an LRT all the way to BOHOL? *dreaming*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a good point there. I strongly agree on BRT. It&#8217;s far more practical to have BRT.</p>
<p>But wouldn&#8217;t it be cool if we had an LRT all the way to BOHOL? *dreaming*</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://laagcebu.com/2009/10/laagcebu-is-for-brt/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Winston - costwise BRT is more attainable and practicable. BRT is perfect for lakwatseros :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Winston &#8211; costwise BRT is more attainable and practicable. BRT is perfect for lakwatseros <img src='http://laagcebu.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Winston</title>
		<link>http://laagcebu.com/2009/10/laagcebu-is-for-brt/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think BRT is more suitable for Cebu. :) The ratio between distance and cost is too high for an LRT/MRT system as compared to that of a BRT. and BRT is much easier to implement ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think BRT is more suitable for Cebu. <img src='http://laagcebu.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  The ratio between distance and cost is too high for an LRT/MRT system as compared to that of a BRT. and BRT is much easier to implement <img src='http://laagcebu.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: batang buotan</title>
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		<dc:creator>batang buotan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support BRT system. And my support is rooted to my desire to make Cebu LIVABLE.

Our city is vehicle friendly city. Would you agree? If our city is people friendly, we should feel safe when we use our roads. Before, roads are built for people, now, roads are built for cars. These ideals of urban planning was replicated from most US cities. Manila is cloning those cities. Are we cloning Manila?

BRT system would help us to re-engineer our urban planning with the ultimate goal of making Cebu, a livable city. Try to view some videos of living in urban Manila, of living in Bogota. And tell yourself which is livable city. The case of TransMilenio will tell us how a metropolitan area almost similar to Metro Cebu was transformed into a livable urban place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support BRT system. And my support is rooted to my desire to make Cebu LIVABLE.</p>
<p>Our city is vehicle friendly city. Would you agree? If our city is people friendly, we should feel safe when we use our roads. Before, roads are built for people, now, roads are built for cars. These ideals of urban planning was replicated from most US cities. Manila is cloning those cities. Are we cloning Manila?</p>
<p>BRT system would help us to re-engineer our urban planning with the ultimate goal of making Cebu, a livable city. Try to view some videos of living in urban Manila, of living in Bogota. And tell yourself which is livable city. The case of TransMilenio will tell us how a metropolitan area almost similar to Metro Cebu was transformed into a livable urban place.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://laagcebu.com/2009/10/laagcebu-is-for-brt/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@simoncpu - that is the whole point of introducing mass transport. it can be made an agent of spreading wealth on neighboring municipalities. But with the current plan of LRT it seems that it is very limited only to the 3 cities which already enjoyed the lion share of the development of Cebu. If we have to spread out wealth we have to expand the reach of our fast mass transport not only within the 3 metro cities but also as far as carcar in the south and danao in the north. That is real investment for the future and not just for election purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@simoncpu &#8211; that is the whole point of introducing mass transport. it can be made an agent of spreading wealth on neighboring municipalities. But with the current plan of LRT it seems that it is very limited only to the 3 cities which already enjoyed the lion share of the development of Cebu. If we have to spread out wealth we have to expand the reach of our fast mass transport not only within the 3 metro cities but also as far as carcar in the south and danao in the north. That is real investment for the future and not just for election purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://laagcebu.com/2009/10/laagcebu-is-for-brt/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@simoncpu - that is the ideal scenario. I am for it. However the BIG QUESTION is &quot;can we afford that&quot;? for now we are constrained to take baby steps for our future. Maybe we should build BRT first and later LRT if passenger volume is increased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@simoncpu &#8211; that is the ideal scenario. I am for it. However the BIG QUESTION is &#8220;can we afford that&#8221;? for now we are constrained to take baby steps for our future. Maybe we should build BRT first and later LRT if passenger volume is increased.</p>
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		<title>By: simoncpu</title>
		<link>http://laagcebu.com/2009/10/laagcebu-is-for-brt/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>simoncpu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good investment that would stimulate economic development not just in Cebu City but in the entire Cebu province as well.  Kung naa na LRT, Mopalit jud ko ug house nga duol sa beach bisan ako office naa sa Cebu City... =)

I agree that we should build BRT first.  The need for LRT will become very clear once passengers get accustomed to long commutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good investment that would stimulate economic development not just in Cebu City but in the entire Cebu province as well.  Kung naa na LRT, Mopalit jud ko ug house nga duol sa beach bisan ako office naa sa Cebu City&#8230; =)</p>
<p>I agree that we should build BRT first.  The need for LRT will become very clear once passengers get accustomed to long commutes.</p>
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		<title>By: simoncpu</title>
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		<dc:creator>simoncpu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want LRT + BRT.

BRT for short-term and LRT for long-term.

LRT can be set up underground and can be connected to major malls and establishment in the city.  The BRT can serve peripheral routes from the drop off points and replace jeepneys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want LRT + BRT.</p>
<p>BRT for short-term and LRT for long-term.</p>
<p>LRT can be set up underground and can be connected to major malls and establishment in the city.  The BRT can serve peripheral routes from the drop off points and replace jeepneys.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Karl</title>
		<link>http://laagcebu.com/2009/10/laagcebu-is-for-brt/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I really want the LRT, for Cebu, I&#039;d go for BRT. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I really want the LRT, for Cebu, I&#8217;d go for BRT. <img src='http://laagcebu.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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